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Thoughts from a follower of Jodi's disappearance
November 13, 2009
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There are so many things about this case that both fascinate me and disturb me. I posted some comments a few years ago on here and since then I have come back periodically to read about any updates on the case. I have also viewed the videos which I think offer a lot of great insight into the case. But, after viewing all of this info, I can only come up with more question.

Before I make my comments I want to say that I have been fascinated with disappearances of all kinds since I was kid. I think it started when I was 15 and Cheri Mahan disappeared not too far from where I used to live. Most recently, the Morgan Harrington case has gotten my attention. . .I am sure some of you know about her disappearance. So, I have read a ton about abductions and disappearances not just in the U.S. but all over the world and this is the knowledge I am accessing when I make my following comments.

1. Even after reading a ton about Jodi, I still get this "clouded" view of who she really was. I mention this because I believe this is relevant to her disappearance. On one hand, even 14 years later, you have people saying how professional she was, how nice she was, how she was so outgoing, how she was liked by everyone, etc. But, on the other hand, she is a woman who came late to work often, thought nothing of staying out late at a friend's house on a work night, when she got home she didn't go right to bed but called someone, drank a few beers before turning in (somewhere I read they found beer cans in the sink), and on the morning of the incident was going to be late. . .again. . .not just late. . .but very late.
I am 39 and I can count on one hand the times I have been late to work and I have done nothing as important in my life as Jodi was doing at the time of her disappearance. Moreover, when I have known people who came to work habitually late, they are usually people who had problems. . .whether it be alcohol, drugs, mental, etc. I don't want to sit here and type badly about the "possible dead" and whatever happened to her is absolutely tragic but I gotta ask: Did Jodi have problems? And could not these problems led her to running into the wrong crowd? And I realize her fellow employees were covering for her but what kind of "nice", "conscientious" person continually shows up late for work and seems not to worry at all about getting fired? To me, once again as a seasoned 39 year old, this tells me that her co-workers knew something was going on personally with Jodi and her co-workers were covering for her. The reason I think this is that if the employees thought she was just lazy and lackadazical, they would have most likely told management about her. Instead they covered for her, seemingly because they felt sorry for Jodi. And now in 2009, they don't want anything bad to come out about her. Does anybody else have any insight on this?

2. Does the abduction scenario sound unusually "high risk" to anyone? I have tried to put myself in the shoes of whoever abducted her that morning. In essence: I know where she lives. . .I know when she leaves for work. . .I know what car she drives. With that info, to me, it seems like a leap to "I need to get a van, sit outside, and wait for her to come out". In fact, that seems like the worst choice of all possible scenarios. The van would stick out like a sore thumb. I take the chance of other people seeing me in the van or hanging around outside even if it is at 4am. I am putting the time of the abduction in Jodi's hands not my own. What if she comes out early? What if she comes out late? What if she escapes my grasp and starts running?
I guess I am saying that there are WAY more negatives than positives in the scenario the abductor(s) chose. Now, I know that criminals don't always think logically. But, whoever did this took the time to follow her. to find out when she goes to work, to find out where she lives. Those are fairly logical things to do. So, I am not convinced this was done by someone who was "crazy". The scenario leads more likely to someone who is an amateur who saw a few too many movies. Granted, in the end, I guess it worked but it seemed to have worked despite the criminal's worst choices.
And I have not even mentioned that Jodi was once again late that morning. The kidnapper continued to wait in the parking lot even though he/she/they knew Jodi was late. How strange is that? How bold is that? How stupid is that? What kind of criminal would do that? I am not sure. Could he/she/they just not have said the Hell with it and come back the next morning? Probably. But, what if whoever was waiting for Jodi that morning was working for someone else? Do they really want to go back to that person and say, "We didn't get her this morning." Because of the "waiting around" factor, I am convinced that whoever was in that van was doing it for someone else. Once again, I put myself in the criminal's shoes. If I am doing this for myself and something goes wrong, I can always come back because I have no one to answer to. But, if someone else has asked/commanded me to do this, then I am going to be much more hesitant about leaving without waiting until the last possible second.
Truth be known, the whole "kidnapper waiting around" thing has ALWAYS bothered me. To me, this is truly the crux of the case. In fact, if you go through all well-known kidnappings and disappearances you may find some where a person waited for their target at a particular location. What you will not find is a scenario where a killer/kidnapper knew when their target would be at a particular place, waited at that place, and then continued to wait at that place and completed their "job" even though the target ended up showing up way late, especially when the waiting place meant a parking lot where other people might be. That is how rare Jodi's disappearance is. This shows either unusual stupidity by the abductor or an unusual need to get the job done that particular morning.

3. What also fascinates me about Jodi's case is the apparent reluctance by people who knew her to really talk about the case. Now, I know the police have told these people to keep quiet but we are going on 14 years now. It's like, "C'mon man!" I know there is always a chance of a defaming of character case. But, I think of it this way: If I kidnapped Jodi, I know I did it. If the police come to talk to me, I , of course, deny it. If other people think I did it and talk, the last thing I want to do is bring a case against them because the last thing I need is any more attention focused on me, , ,especially in the environment of some kind of civil case where allegations can flow very freely, unlike a criminal trial where evidence and theories are a little more tightly controlled.
I am not the kind of guy to trash people's good names and I would never say somebody did something when they didn't. But, if I had good info, and it was 14 years in, and my good friend was gone, and the case was going cold, I think I would talk and I would not be a party to anyone who thought relevant names should be kept concealed. Defamation be damned. In fact, the only way I could understand Jodi's friends keeping their mouths shut was if they were afraid. And that takes me the whole way back to the beginning: Was Jodi personally involved in some things that were. . .well. . .frankly. . .just down right dirty and dangerous?

I wonder.

November 13, 2009
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Good points - only thing I have to add is that from what I've heard Jodi was not "late". What I mean is that Jodi was mostly "late" to work, so 4 AM was not unusual. The abductor did not have to wait around. He/she knew her habitual tardiness.

November 13, 2009
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I don't think that's right. The reason they were calling her at home that morning in the first place was because she had not gotten to work yet. So, she was supposed to be at work but she was still in bed! So, she wasn't just late to work. . .she slept WAY in. . .she got up much later than she normally would. . .she left her place WAY after she normally would.

But even given that, if you are planning to kidnap Jodi, you don't "plan" on Jodi being late. The reason? No matter how habitually (and I'm not sure what that even means . .2 days of the week, 3 days out of the week?) late she was, someone would never plan for her to be late on that particular morning because they would run the risk that this would be the morning that Jodi was leaving her place on time and miss her. No. . .he/they would plan that she is going to be on time which means on that morning the abductor/s were there in plenty of time to get Jodi when she would normally leave her place on time to get to work on time. Being that she was leaving late, the abductor(s) had to have been there longer than he/they planned. Yet still, whoever did this stuck around. . .I'm saying this again: What kind of kidnapper waits around? If a kidnapper can wait an hour more than planned. . .what exactly were these people's limit to waiting? Did it need to be done that bad? The whole thing sets up as very, very risky.

November 13, 2009
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Thank you so much for the posting. It shows a lot of thought and sincerity and I admire that.

First of all there are a small number of scenarios that have been in my head for the past 10 or so years. Since Josh and I started looking at this case and trying to come up with something that will "encourage" someone to come forward and either admit guilt or offer some hint of a solution.

From day one I have had these questions:

1. Normally Jodi would be going to work before 4 a.m. I don't think it was an everyday thing that she was that late. I was a news director for several years and I never had another employee come into my office and complain about somebody coming in late. News Directors traditionally have to "stumble" on problems with other employees. There is a no tell attitude amongst most news room employees. Only when there is some competition those issues remain buried. I have had the occasion to be included in concerns with female reporters who feel that someone is following them. It didn't take a lot of persuasion to make them realize I don't put up with that. I never went that direction unless the employee came to me. Jodi went to her News Director and some level of security was provided but it obviously wasn't on deck the morning she was abducted.

2. Why would someone have the patience to wait until 4:30 unless they knew that Jodi was in the apartment and that she would eventually be coming out the door. The light inside the apartment might have been a clue. Maybe Jodi had the air conditioner turned off and had an open window. The abductor/s waiting outside might have heard the phone ring and were able to hear Jodi answer it. That call would have been more in the time frame that she would normally have left her apartment.

3. What made that day different than the day before or the day after? Why was somebody willing to wait that length of time when most people would have thrown up their hands and come back the next day. My theory is it must have been something that the abductor/s believed HAD to do that morning. Was Jodi going to do something that day that warranted being killed?

4. Why hasn't anyone talked? Usually two or three people will talk about the crime and eventually word slips out. Maybe there only was one person.

This is a good exchange, good thoughts, provoking and I believe are on the money. Keep it coming.

November 13, 2009
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There are certainly some very good thoughts here.

I was just thinking to myself 'what kind of person was Jodi?'.
All I have is a short TV clip showing her 'on air persona' and some photographs with a radiant smile.
As the saying goes 'you can't judge a book by its cover' and you certainly can't judge people by their appearance.

I would like some documented evidence on her punctuality problems.
I find it difficult to reconcile her apparent habitual lateness for work with the goals she had in her diary.

Any police department is up against it when there is little evidence, no witnesses, no clear motive and no body.

There are thousands of unsolved abductions. A visit to the doe network or charleyproject.org will give any of us enough cases for several lifetimes.

In Jodi's case is it possible the fantasies of her murderer had peaked. The desire to act out the fantasy of abducting her was overwhelming and that morning was the time.
Come hell or highwater he was going to have Jodi.
From the moment he hit Jodi, with considerable force it seems, all the breaks went his way.

November 14, 2009
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Good dialog, I'm going to throw something out for consideration, if true, it could open a can of worms all around.

Lets say the abductor was hired to abduct Jodi that morning, How do we know that all the calls she received that morning were from her job waking her up?. She could have gotten a call from the person who hired the abductor to get her out of the house once they found out she was late. How would they find out she was very late for work? Read between the lines, I still believe people at work know more than they have told about what happened. How many calls did they actually make to Jodi that morning?, I'd like to see those phone records to see who called her? Say professional jealousy was involved, making sure she was out of her apartment was important that morning, why? because someone was waiting for her no matter what time it was.

This is a tough case no doubt, we would all like access to all the info available. Conspiracy theories make for intriguing thought and may be totally off base, the date was important, that day was important why risk being seen at such a later hour.

Another quick thought about her tardiness, Why would someone who wrote inspirational thought down to motivate herself career wise and had dreams of moving to a bigger market risk that by being constantly late? She had a morning anchor job, she was recognized for her talents, habitually late? Sorry don't buy it.

November 14, 2009
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Well Vinny we have similar thoughts on the talk of Jodie being frequently late for work.
To quote from your post:

And then from my post:

There is food for thought in the rest of your post too. In another thread I toyed with an idea there could have been a woman behind this abduction. I freely admit it is wild speculation but some here have suggested we think outside the square. The clue to my line of thinking is in vinny's very good post.
Thanks fasteddy for starting this thought provoking thread.

November 16, 2009
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I, too am on board with the idea that "there's a woman" behind all of this.

Since it seems possible there was more than one vehicle involved that morning, how do we even know that Jodi was the one who "called out the name"?

Maybe the "female mastermind" was actually in the parking lot that morning, too, watching things go down and she was the one to call out "the name" based on something that maybe wasn't going right with "the plan".

Who were the "close" females and who would have been willing/able to help them carry out such a wicked plan?

November 16, 2009
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Good thoughts Observer, we may have to broaden our view of the scene in the parking lot, It could lead to no where but we have 14 years of nowhere. Maybe something happened during the course of the day that was perceived to have slighted someone enough to seek retaliation to the extreme. Comments made, jealousy because of her rise in stature and people she had access to and they didn't.

As much as I thought of the drug connection and it is still in my thinking, jealousy and and ego's are powerful combo's. Does anyone know if Jodi had an aire about her?, you get the impression she was this happy, friendly person 24/7, but in a professional atmosphere how was her demeanour to other people from the outside looking in?

As suggested let's start thinking outside the box.

1 - What do we know about Jodi, the person.
A - Personality
B - Family
C - How did she handle relationships
D - Did she put up walls, that was hard to breakthrough
that could have caused frustration for people to get know
her.
2 - The career woman.
3 - Contacts she had professionally.
4 - Friends and acquaintances.
5 - Any perceived rivals that she thought and spoke of to anyone in a
menacing way.

This is a start, if this has merit please add to it, If anyone who visits this site actually knew Jodi please fill in the blanks, even it you use the tip line, hopefully Gary or Josh can assist us while keeping your assistance private.

October 11, 2012
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vinny said
There are so many things about this case that both fascinate me and disturb me. I posted some comments a few years ago on here and since then I have come back periodically to read about any updates on the case. I have also viewed the videos which I think offer a lot of great insight into the case. But, after viewing all of this info, I can only come up with more question.

Before I make my comments I want to say that I have been fascinated with disappearances of all kinds since I was kid. I think it started when I was 15 and Cheri Mahan disappeared not too far from where I used to live. Most recently, the Morgan Harrington case has gotten my attention. . .I am sure some of you know about her disappearance. So, I have read a ton about abductions and disappearances not just in the U.S. but all over the world and this is the knowledge I am accessing when I make my following comments.

1. Even after reading a ton about Jodi, I still get this "clouded" view of who she really was. I mention this because I believe this is relevant to her disappearance. On one hand, even 14 years later, you have people saying how professional she was, how nice she was, how she was so outgoing, how she was liked by everyone, etc. But, on the other hand, she is a woman who came late to work often, thought nothing of staying out late at a friend's house on a work night, when she got home she didn't go right to bed but called someone, drank a few beers before turning in (somewhere I read they found beer cans in the sink), and on the morning of the incident was going to be late. . .again. . .not just late. . .but very late.
I am 39 and I can count on one hand the times I have been late to work and I have done nothing as important in my life as Jodi was doing at the time of her disappearance. Moreover, when I have known people who came to work habitually late, they are usually people who had problems. . .whether it be alcohol, drugs, mental, etc. I don't want to sit here and type badly about the "possible dead" and whatever happened to her is absolutely tragic but I gotta ask: Did Jodi have problems? And could not these problems led her to running into the wrong crowd? And I realize her fellow employees were covering for her but what kind of "nice", "conscientious" person continually shows up late for work and seems not to worry at all about getting fired? To me, once again as a seasoned 39 year old, this tells me that her co-workers knew something was going on personally with Jodi and her co-workers were covering for her. The reason I think this is that if the employees thought she was just lazy and lackadazical, they would have most likely told management about her. Instead they covered for her, seemingly because they felt sorry for Jodi. And now in 2009, they don't want anything bad to come out about her. Does anybody else have any insight on this?

2. Does the abduction scenario sound unusually "high risk" to anyone? I have tried to put myself in the shoes of whoever abducted her that morning. In essence: I know where she lives. . .I know when she leaves for work. . .I know what car she drives. With that info, to me, it seems like a leap to "I need to get a van, sit outside, and wait for her to come out". In fact, that seems like the worst choice of all possible scenarios. The van would stick out like a sore thumb. I take the chance of other people seeing me in the van or hanging around outside even if it is at 4am. I am putting the time of the abduction in Jodi's hands not my own. What if she comes out early? What if she comes out late? What if she escapes my grasp and starts running?
I guess I am saying that there are WAY more negatives than positives in the scenario the abductor(s) chose. Now, I know that criminals don't always think logically. But, whoever did this took the time to follow her. to find out when she goes to work, to find out where she lives. Those are fairly logical things to do. So, I am not convinced this was done by someone who was "crazy". The scenario leads more likely to someone who is an amateur who saw a few too many movies. Granted, in the end, I guess it worked but it seemed to have worked despite the criminal's worst choices.
And I have not even mentioned that Jodi was once again late that morning. The kidnapper continued to wait in the parking lot even though he/she/they knew Jodi was late. How strange is that? How bold is that? How stupid is that? What kind of criminal would do that? I am not sure. Could he/she/they just not have said the Hell with it and come back the next morning? Probably. But, what if whoever was waiting for Jodi that morning was working for someone else? Do they really want to go back to that person and say, "We didn't get her this morning." Because of the "waiting around" factor, I am convinced that whoever was in that van was doing it for someone else. Once again, I put myself in the criminal's shoes. If I am doing this for myself and something goes wrong, I can always come back because I have no one to answer to. But, if someone else has asked/commanded me to do this, then I am going to be much more hesitant about leaving without waiting until the last possible second.
Truth be known, the whole "kidnapper waiting around" thing has ALWAYS bothered me. To me, this is truly the crux of the case. In fact, if you go through all well-known kidnappings and disappearances you may find some where a person waited for their target at a particular location. What you will not find is a scenario where a killer/kidnapper knew when their target would be at a particular place, waited at that place, and then continued to wait at that place and completed their "job" even though the target ended up showing up way late, especially when the waiting place meant a parking lot where other people might be. That is how rare Jodi's disappearance is. This shows either unusual stupidity by the abductor or an unusual need to get the job done that particular morning.

3. What also fascinates me about Jodi's case is the apparent reluctance by people who knew her to really talk about the case. Now, I know the police have told these people to keep quiet but we are going on 14 years now. It's like, "C'mon man!" I know there is always a chance of a defaming of character case. But, I think of it this way: If I kidnapped Jodi, I know I did it. If the police come to talk to me, I , of course, deny it. If other people think I did it and talk, the last thing I want to do is bring a case against them because the last thing I need is any more attention focused on me, , ,especially in the environment of some kind of civil case where allegations can flow very freely, unlike a criminal trial where evidence and theories are a little more tightly controlled.
I am not the kind of guy to trash people's good names and I would never say somebody did something when they didn't. But, if I had good info, and it was 14 years in, and my good friend was gone, and the case was going cold, I think I would talk and I would not be a party to anyone who thought relevant names should be kept concealed. Defamation be damned. In fact, the only way I could understand Jodi's friends keeping their mouths shut was if they were afraid. And that takes me the whole way back to the beginning: Was Jodi personally involved in some things that were. . .well. . .frankly. . .just down right dirty and dangerous?

I wonder.

The person who took Jodi had spent many nights in her parking lot, stalking her. He was someone she knew very well. He did know her timeline about going to work. Her  car  was in the parking lot, so he is guessing she is still at home. HE WENT THERE AT THAT TIME TO TAKE HER! He even went to her apartment and knocked and shouted Jodi open the door I know you are in there. The neighbor said he then left the buildling. He was not going to give up just because she was late. He had this all planned out and intended to carry it out to the end. I believe something took place at the golf outing that infuriated him. I am not sure he was there, someone said he was. I think he had reached the end of his rope and this was the night. When she came out and was trying to unlock her door, she went to the passenger side of the car. I am guessing  this is because she had this big tote full of belongings and she was going to put it on the passenger seat. He grabbed her and whirled her around, she would have flung the tote and spilled it's contents. He mashed her head into the rear view mirror, either stunning her or killing her. If she had gone to the driver side of the car, he could have just grabbed her and put her into his trunk. Since she didn't he was forced to drag her to his car, her shoes came off and they left a scuffed image on  the cement. He threw her into his trunk and sped out of the Key parking lot. I do not buy the van thing. I don't think there was a van.

October 11, 2012
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vinny said
There are certainly some very good thoughts here.

I was just thinking to myself 'what kind of person was Jodi?'.
All I have is a short TV clip showing her 'on air persona' and some photographs with a radiant smile.
As the saying goes 'you can't judge a book by its cover' and you certainly can't judge people by their appearance.

I would like some documented evidence on her punctuality problems.
I find it difficult to reconcile her apparent habitual lateness for work with the goals she had in her diary.

Any police department is up against it when there is little evidence, no witnesses, no clear motive and no body.

There are thousands of unsolved abductions. A visit to the doe network or charleyproject.org will give any of us enough cases for several lifetimes.

In Jodi's case is it possible the fantasies of her murderer had peaked. The desire to act out the fantasy of abducting her was overwhelming and that morning was the time.
Come hell or highwater he was going to have Jodi.
From the moment he hit Jodi, with considerable force it seems, all the breaks went his way.

You are right on the money.

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I posted this under another topic but will post here as well. Sorry for the repetition.
I have followed this case for years. I was visiting Swea City when this occurred and saw the first broadcasts regarding Jodi's' disappearance. I've never thought the intention was to kill her at the scene in the parking lot, and I do not believe she was. She may have been injured by happenstance in the abduction, but I believe the intention was to take Jodi to "talk to her," "get through to her," or "straighten something out," whether that be about something illegal she happened to find out; an obsession with her; or a problem in a relationship. I do not believe her body was "dumped" within 30 minutes, an hour, or even a few days of her abduction. I believe she was alive for a time; then when the abductor realized she could not be swayed, she could not be freed due to repercussions. That is when I believe the abductor began a plan for her death and for secreting her body. If it was an obsessed person, I believe her body would have been buried in a place the abductor could keep an eye on and visit, even memorialize, as the obsession wouldn't die with Jodi's death - for she's now his "forever." A person obsessed with her would probably give great thought to her final resting place if he went through the trouble of abducting her. Any problem Jodi might have had with a drug dealer; her friends murderer; or a person of some other illegal activity, would probably have gotten her killed and her body left at the parking lot scene - it makes more of a statement... The altercation heard by "ear witnesses" does not strike me as words said to a stranger, especially if the use of a name is true; and I don't believe it was a stranger abduction.
I do not believe, either, the reason was because of something she learned or was involved with illegally. I think it was obsession and the abductors patience had run out; possibly due to watching her with other men and couldn't stand it another minute...I do, however, believe it was someone known to her. Jodi may not have known it was the same person stalking her due to dark tinted windows on the pick-up truck on the previous occasions and a different vehicle may have been used in the abduction to detract attention. If the abductor was involved in drugs and in a meth-induced psychosis, he may have had another whacked out druggie helping him, which could explain the "pacing" off the jogger (paranoia). Could also explain no talking over the years - one could be dead or they just don't remember the details. Could also explain the waiting in the parking lot - no sense of time for a meth-head...only the goal.

 

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Interesting post, Philli. I thought you hit the nail on the head when you said that, if Jodi had been abducted by someone from the Mason City drug culture, they would have left her body as an example to others. I honestly believe that if Honken or any of his cohorts knew something about Jodi, they would have talked already to get a lighter sentence. Personally, I don't think the abductor "visits" Jodi, wherever she is buried. I don't think that person has that sort of personality. Also, I would suggest that the abductor's drug of choice might have been alcohol, rather than meth.  But I'm just guessing on all of that and all of this is just my humble opinion. Thanks for bumping this thread up.

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philigumbo, one thing that I have always thought stank was the story of the jogger. I really think that everything she has said is bogus. Why didn't she come forth sooner, why didn't her witness account prove to be just as important as the guy who saw the van?

 

I agree with you on the topic that this could be drug-induced. And that's the reason why the van was sitting outside for so long. Also could explain why he didn't leave when Jodi's schedule was abnormal that morning. He could have been in a compulsive trance on completing his goal at all costs. I like your ideas. It would help explain a few things odd in this case.

 

As much as I try to discredit the guy who saw the van with its parking lights on, it just doesn't work. The guy had nothing to gain and what stands out to me is his quote from the news interview about him seeing what he saw and that they even gave him a lie detector about it. He gave off the vibe that the MCPD can take it or leave it, and he doesn't care  if they do or not. Hell, I bet if you saw the guy in a bar today, he'd tell you straight again that he saw the van and he doesn't care if you believe him or not.

 

So I do think that there was a van there that morning with a man in there in a possible meth induced trance hell bent on taking Jodi out. Anyone else have some thoughts on the jogger and the van?

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I don't doubt the jogger or the van....I have mentioned before that obviously JVS was NOT at the golf tournament. If golfing was a thing that Jodi and the car dealer boyfriend, for a lack of terms, had in common, JVS would have been out of place. She's drinking and having a great time all day with that circle of friends. (She's got to get up and go to work in the morning)

HOW, what strategy, motive, tactic did JVS use to talk her into coming over to his house ( after she'd already been at home from being at the tournament). Was we acting pitiful? Did she have to reassure him that he didn't miss out on anything? Was he crying? She risk herself, drinking and driving, no-less to run to his aid. (the young girl did have a  sugar daddy)

JVS claims she was at his apartment viewing the birthday VHS tape.... In the "Dead Air" book I believe I read that she had watched that tape along with others the day the boating trip was cut short due to rain.

In my opinion he may have played that tape again to tug  on her heart strings and try to show her ALLLLL he's done for her and he'sss the one.....blah, blah, blah,  and when she rejected him and needed to go home and get to sleep it pissed him off. She left. He then stewed, and stewed, like tweekers do.

He, JVS, is able to live with himself because it was the drugs and not him. Leaving town has helped. He is not under the microscope and having to filter every word he has said for the past 16-18 years.

Where's the woman JVS used to go for walks with?the one that he stood up the morning of Jodi's disappearance?Unable to walk that morning? But let her come over later so he's have some sort of alibi?

 

June 28, 2013
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I don't believe Jodi showed up at his apartment to watch the tape again the evening of the 26th. She may have been invited, but I think she was a no-show and that's why someone was pounding on her door that evening, demanding she open up. He was mad about being stood up and that, combined with the conspicuous red Miata purchased with the assistance of someone else, enraged him so much that he either acted independently or in concert with someone else to make Jodi disappear. 

I think I heard, possibly on the Fade to Black video, that the woman he used to walk with moved to Arizona with him, but they are no longer together. 

Speaking of Fade to Black, it's well-worth the small contribution to watch. The woman he walked with is named and the scene at the convenience store at 7 a.m on June 27, in which he told his friend Jodi didn't show up for work that morning even before KIMT called the, is reenacted to great effect. Fade to Black is less polished than some of the network pieces, but I personally thought it was more information rich than anything else I've seen, probably because it was written by Gary.

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I did purchase the Fade to Black video. I thought it was very interesting as well.

If JVS, being the last to see her, is a person of interest, shouldn't authorities be able to look him up for questioning? and more questioning? Interrogate him since he made claim of her missing before anyone knew.

And the woman, the walking partner, she should be questioned too. What if JVS used to talk in his sleep :) And if they are not together any longer perhaps she could give some insight into her thoughts about their (jodi and JVS's) friendship/obsession.

 

the death of Bill Pruit is quite disturbing too and JVS's dislike for him. Mason City has really dropped the ball.

In my opinion there is a huge link there. Perhaps Jodi tried to distance herself from JVS after that murder. JVS perhaps could sense that Jodi suspected him and had to either keep her close or eliminate her. HUMMMM?

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Personally, I think the police know who did it. The trouble is that they have no case and, if they can't provide proof, they can't charge someone. 

I think Jodi was distancing herself and was very interested in someone else. 

I think Amy Kuns got it exactly right when she said (paraphrase) the perpetrator would have to brag about the case before there would be a resolution. 

And I definitely think the Pruin murder and Jodi's murder are connected. I think Billy Pruin came home from buying his new tractor, saw  a familiar van somewhere in the area, knew a confrontation (probably about Jodi) was imminent and ran into the house (without removing his shoes) to get his gun to defend himself. He was probably caught off balance and overpowered and ...

 

 

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Tomahawk, you and I are on the same Brainwave...My thoughts exactly

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why hasn't a PI been Following JVS sometime throughout the past 18 years....people do brag and make incriminating remarks. He's been close to more death in AZ besides Mason City and Newton.

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