[url][/url]Please read the article [url=http://findjodi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=80:agitated-man&catid=53:news-archive&Itemid=55/]Witness: Agitated Man was at Jodi's Door[/url]. After discussing with Gary if we should post it or not, we felt this is a very important event in the case. Gary questioned the woman who brought this information to FindJodi.com. The woman was Jodi's neighbor and had many things to say about the night and morning leading up to Jodi's disappearance.
If you have any comments regarding these "new" details, feel free to reply to this thread. This opens the door on many more theories surrounding Jodi's disappearance.
Did the witness hear if the man left by car? For example, did the witness hear a car door slam, engine running? or not or maybe headlights? Did the man walk away by foot?
Also, had the neighbor heard the voice before in the apartment complex? Was it familiar?
Did he sound angry, or under the influence, drugs or alcohol. If he didn't leave by car he could have lived in the complex. From what I have heard she was involved with a golf tournament of some kind or affair at the golf club for a good portion of the day prior to her abduction. It could have been someone from the club who came to her apartment. Did the police interview the people who attended that event.
There was no indication the person left by car. I think it's interesting that if Jodi's car was gone why he thought she was home. We have to remember that the Miata was purchased just days, weeks before and maybe the night visitor didn't know she had a different car.
If this man sounded upset and agitated, there is a possibility he knew there was trouble ahead for Jodi and he was there to warn her.
On the other hand, if the man sounded crazy and angry at Jodi, he could be the person of interest.
Can the witness distinguish between these two? What was her impression?
The police seem so sure this was "personal".
Had the witness heard this man's voice before? What were Jodi's habits like. Did she have lots of male visitors to her apartment? or did she live a quiet, private life. Did the witness ever "see" anyone or run into them within the complex? As a neighbor, did she ever talk with Jodi?
Did this witness (neighbor) ever see a teenager of african descent hanging around the complex?
She described the man's voice as "agitated" thinking she was in the apartment. AS for a length of time he was there was unclear, but for "several minutes". I am not familiar with MCPD saying it was "personal" but it would seem everything that night would be more than personal, but maybe MCPD has found that person and interviewed him and are comfortable with his story.
There has to be a key to this case somewhere and Josh and I will not give up trying to find it. Someone has an answer.
Forgot a couple of questions. One witness did place such a person on the property the morning before. As far as visitors to the apartment, Jodi was a popular girl who probably have several visitors, male and female to her apartment.
I would assume the neighbor spoke to Jodi, I know she told me that UPS or Fedex had delivered a package from a TV station to her because Jodi wasn't home.
For what it's worth:
I am currently a morning anchor and I get up very early. I was just realizing that if Jodi got home between 8-9pm from John Vansice's house (and even called a friend around 9:00pm that night)...should would have been getting to bed WAY LATE.
I have to admit, there have been times when I have stayed up until 9, 10, maybe even 11:00. The 2:30am wakeup call is nearly impossible in that situation for me. And if you're not careful, it's easy to oversleep. Amy Kuns did wake her up and claimed she sounded like she just woke up...and she was running late.
So I understand she could have EASILY overslept getting to bed later than 9:00.
Just a thought.
But then we are left with whoever abducted Jodi knew she was to work that day late or not and hung around well past her normal time she left. Do you know if the people at the golf club were interviewed? It does seem that Columbo is correct, everything for whatever reason was starting to come together leading to her abduction, If we speculate that the person was possibly warning her, it opens a whole can of worms none of which leads to an infatuated fan. The sad thing about it is that with all the other possibilities the infatuated fan could have been happening at the same time, but one is scenario is more likely than the rest. Which one.
I heard from sources, as well as from video/TV ( Amy Kuns and Doug Merbach) that Jodi OFTEN showed up late for work. This means her timing on the day she disappeared was normal. On the otherhand, her timing on the day before the day she disappeared was abnormal. She was at work on time. This was also the morning a witness saw a man outside of her apartment at 4:30 PM. It is a possibility the morning she was abducted was a second attempt.
I also heard that there was competition between Jodi and the other TV anchor, Robin. I heard they both even had red cars. Can this be verified by someone who knew them directly? No judment; just want to know the dynamics going on surrounding Jodi.
In Episode #4 of the videos, Jodi's sister says she received an unsigned letter saying the man who lived a couples houses from the apartment complex stalked Jodi. When investigated, the man had died. What age was that man, what did he look like and what kind of car did he own in 1995? Anyone know this? Jodi's sister must know if she had it investigated.
Was there someone in her past that she was serious with? Maybe this person felt they wanted more and she decided against it? Someone from another town or even in college?
In conversations I had with officials, Jodi had a long list of friends, going back to her school days. In talking with one of the friends, she said that Jodi was always challenging her friends, be it playing golf, walking, etc. After a round of golf she would talk to the people she played with and encouraged them to do better. Some people might have resented that.
Was there a special someone? No one really knows for sure, perhaps her co-workers knew of someone but for the most part the stories are more of a "Good friend" relationship.
The TV news business is competitive and everyone of these young reporters want to be anchors.
HI, BOY "COLUMBO", I REALLY REALLY, THINK YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING HERE, AND THOSE WHERE THINGS THAT ALSO STUCK OUT IN MY MIND YEARS AGO, WHEN I WAS TUNED IN TO IT,
BEFORE ALL THIS WONDERFUL INFO & SUPER SITE! THAT OTHERS SHOULD START IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS ALSO.
I AM NOW JUST COMING ACROSS THIS SITE AND INFO AND CASE ALL OVER AGAIN, AND AS I HAD QUESTIONS, AND PERPLEXED ON THIS CASE FOR YEARS, AS I AM FROM THE ST CLOUD AREA OF MN, WHICH WAS OF THE AREA & NEAR BY OF WHERE JODI WAS FROM,
SO TODAY AS I VISITED THE WCCO.COM WEB SITE, OF MPLS, MN. I HAPPEN TO STUMBLE UPON ALL THIS,
AND IT IS LISTED UNDER A CRIME REPORTER, CAROLINE? I CAN'T RECALL, = IT'S ON AN ANCHORS CRIME UNSOLVED SECTION, WHICH I THINK SHE DID INTERVIEWS ON IT ALSO YRS, AGO,
AND I'VE BEEN GOING THRU SITE, AND SOME OF THE FORUMS AND THREADS, AND I STILL CONCERNED ON THIS CASE. I REALLY THINK THAT WHAT COLUMBO SAYS HERE, IS A HUGE KEY, AS I FELT IT WAY BACK THEN ALSO,
AND I THINK IT IS GREAT, WHAT EVERY ONE IS DOING ON THIS SITE, AND ARE THE INVESTIGATORS TAKING NOTES ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS YOU ALL ARE BRINGING UP AND THINKING AND PUTTING TOGETHER?? AND WHAT I FEEL IS SOME SLOPPY POLICE WORK ONCE AGAIN, AND THAT THEY BY BIG CHANCES WERE AND ARE, IN COMPETENT IN THIS TYPE OF CASES,.. AS I THINK THE SITE HAS SEVERAL KEY POINTS & WHERE IT STILL NEEDS TO BE RE-DONE, AGAIN, OR WERE THERE ANY CORRUPTED COPS INVOLVED?? AND I NEVER HEARD OF THE GOLF COURSE, OR THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE OUT HER PLACE THE DAY BEFORE,
KEEP IT UP I THINK YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACKS AND ALSO COLUMBO!!
In columbo's post above this question is posed:
[i]In Episode #4 of the videos, Jodi's sister says she received an unsigned letter saying the man who lived a couples houses from the apartment complex stalked Jodi. When investigated, the man had died. What age was that man, what did he look like and what kind of car did he own in 1995? Anyone know this? Jodi's sister must know if she had it investigated.[/i]
Can anyone help here? When did he die?
La Terese; you say:
I REALLY THINK THAT WHAT COLUMBO SAYS HERE, IS A HUGE KEY, AS I FELT IT WAY BACK THEN ALSO,
I've said a lot of things; which part are you referring to? The part that Jodi and Robin were in competition with eachother?
Some visitors are like ships in the night in that they make a post and sail off into the distance.
I would like to know columbo's key points too.
I suppose we are never to know if the agitated man at Jodi's door was ever interviewed.
I wonder if the neighbor who heard him also heard Jodi come home?
Did this guy hang around the apartments and met up with Jodi in the parking lot?
Did he have a couple of beers in Jodi's apartment?
Where is he today?
From one of columbo's posts:
Anyone have any answers on the stalker that had died?
Joanne must have shared the note with LE because she often spoke of it during our interviews. I never got into it (probably should have) but time, many tips that seemed likely resulted in lack of information on that one.
It could still be searched out.
I want to say that in watching the "20/20" report by Elizabeth Vargas regarding Jodi's case, I don't think there's any question that Robin was truly Jodi's friend and cared about her. Robin came across as sincere and concerned, and I believe every word she said about caring for Jodi. I think Robin's warmth was genuine.
Someone mentioned Robin and Jodi being in competition. If they were, I'm sure it was in the friendliest sense of it. I guess all of us are in some type of implicit competition with our friends at work, whether we think about it or not. And someone mentioned both Jodi and Robin had red cars? Is this to imply that perhaps Robin was the original target, and not Jodi? Did they live close to each other?
Interesting thread here.
I'm not sure I buy the seeming "sincerity" of "friends". They are glaringly absent from this website, which has so much value in helping resolve what happened.
It's been to quiet, so I'll offer some more to consider:
Does anyone know if sexual predators are more prone to act on impulse and at certain hours vs being more calculated and striking at less anticipated hours? BCA/forensic psychologists must have stats on this type of thing.
I agree with Gary - there are key factors within the high risk timeframe...if the abductor(s) knew Jodi was going to be coming out that door early in the morning to get to work (and most of us agree that was highly likely)...then logic would say that she would be missed very quickly by someone expecting her to show up for work. That doesn't give a s.p. much time to get away with lewd acts, much less travel to a remote destination or "do away" with evidence…without worrying about authorities being hot on the perp's trail. This info would lend itself toward a "planned/premeditated" attack no matter who did it. Why would someone who was obsessed with Jodi make a plan that wasn't likely to include "as much time as possible" with her? Don't predators think through their evil deeds before they carry them out? I would think an obsessed stalker would have either acted more on impulse during an evening hour, (which there was likely opportunity for) or planned to take her at a time when the risk of being caught quickly was much lower; if whoever did this knew anything about Jodi, they knew they would not have much time to carry out the(ir) mission in the AM…even if she had been "on time" in leaving the apt that morning.
I sense this was something done by locals, who knew the area well, and had a plan and a time-frame to accomplish it within and then quickly put on a (seemingly) normal façade. Iowans in general can be super-territorial; Jodi was admired and successful in the small but competitive MC market…in those days, everyone started in small markets and looked to jump to bigger ones…Jodi was a threat to young females at the station, probably professionally and socially (was there a local drug mob and she knew too much about the wrong people?). The viewing audience liked Jodi's girl-next-door appeal, there was likely jealousy, and she was "in the way"; a fish out of water, a sweet MN girl passing thru foreign/claimed turf. Maybe whoever did this to Jodi also had involvement in her friend Billy's death? It just seems too coincidental...
I think Jodi was knocked out in her parking lot and probably never regained consciousness. I tend to believe that her remains are somewhere that won't ever be easily discovered (i.e. incinerator or construction project)…at least not until the POI's and their backgrounds are thoroughly looked at…giving clues as to where Jodi could be. Until law enforcement focuses on this, the only things the rest of us can effectively do is keep digging for circumstantial evidence and pray that the evil doer(s) confess (cowards seldom do).
There are some guilty folk(s) out there who probably pride themselves in putting on a good show in the meantime…do we know who they are? These are scary people and I think the reluctance of "those who may know something" to step up and speak is prevented by knowing what cold blooded, insecure, fakey, evil, narcissistic/sociopathic person(s) are capable of.
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