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February 12, 2012
2:41 pm
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Having known about this case, like everyone else, and living in Iowa, I read Beth Bednar's book and have some of the following ideas/questions.
Has anyone kept a comprehensive list of the areas searched and who searched them?
It seems that, from what I have read, they only searched in the Cerro Gordo area. Following the timeline, I would think the abductor(s) had a fair amount of time to go anywhere they needed, but I would think they had an area ready to either hide out for a while, or an area outside of Mason City. I don't think they stayed in Mason City, but did anyone look at the surrounding immediate towns, Nora Springs, Manly, Rudd, Osage or anything within about an hour radius. When looking at Google maps, it seemed the least populated areas and therefore less policed roads would have been going towards Osage and Lime Springs, also in that area towards the border is the Forestville Cave Park. In this area of the map are a lot of small wildlife Access Areas and Lake Louise Park. It may seem like a stretch, but if someone were planning this ahead of time, they would know that the Major Highways would be the first place LE would think to watch, so back roads and as few towns as possible would be the route to go. I think that trying to hide out in Mason City would have maybe been an option for a short amount of time while the vehicles were switched and than they left MC before the news broke and a major effort ensued. So I would think that they would have stayed in MC for about 1 -2 hours tops and than left for another predetermined location, probably not very far away as they would know by late afternoon/evening everyone would be looking in MC and all the roads in and out would have some form of monitoring.
As for the abduction itself, I think the idea of it being a "drug hit" could be wrong. Even if Jodi saw something at the Golf Event, what was she going to do, go on TV that morning and say what she saw? She would need a lot of evidence to back such a story and as soon as she starting accusing people of stuff on air, she would have been cut off and probably fired and sued. Also, wouldn't the "hit" of been at a very inconvenient time, people in MC do work in the morning and for someone to plan this hit, they would of more than likely picked her up at night or did something at a bar she frequented. Or, if it were some kind of message, couldn't they have staged a botched robbery or car jacking where she was killed rather than taking her and enduring years of investigation along with the number of people involved who could of have talked at any time and as we see with the book, more evidence came out about people involved in different crimes because of Jodi being a missing person.The key to most criminal activity is to not draw any unneeded attention to it.
So I would have to go with the stalker or obsessed person(s) theory. The thing everyone says is to look at sex offenders and police records, but maybe this was done by someone who had no record, thereby knowing that they would never be suspected , or knowing Jodi was involved with so much else, they knew the LE would spend all their time investigating those leads that they could carry out their plan with little worry.
If it was such a person(s) they must have been the one that the joggers saw following them in the pick up, they had probably did practice runs, or maybe never planned on going through with an abduction. But, as we see on news reports, these type of people usually start small, maybe running in to her at a bar, "accidentally" running into her when she was running errands or something, but then they start parking outside her apartment or following her and her boyfriends around at night. But, someone started planning this and since they had known her patterns and knew the North Iowa area, were able to do whatever they did and not get caught.
One of the psychics said that one of the people involved was dead, did she know a name or look at any obituaries to try to figure out who the person was, since the person probably had to of had 1 or 2 other people to help, LE might be able to make a connection. Also, the issues with the vehicles seems to be strange. Aside from colors, everyone seems to agree there was a pick up and at least 1 or 2 other vehicles in the area that morning. With the pick up, couldn't someone look at DMV records in Cerro Gordo and see if any were either black or white and than see who owned them and where these people lived in proximity to either KIMT or the Key Apartments. Also, if the truck had tinted windows, maybe there would be a record of someone getting a ticket for tinted windows, I remember that a lot of people would get pulled over by the MCPD to check if the tints weren't too dark and they did give out tickets if they were too dark. Also with the vehicles, it would seem very risky for 2 to 3 people to use their own cars to pull this off and using stolen plates and driving around at 3 or 4 in the morning would also be very risky, although some criminals don't think too much about these things. But, could the vehicles have been from out of state or maybe someone had access to different vehicles, maybe from a car lot or salvage yard, and they were able to switch vehicles around without them having to be registered or anyone missing them.
Sorry this is long winded, but watching so many crime shows made me think of these things. I would like to know if any of these topics were already covered and what may have been said about them.
So basically, my theory is that it was an obsessed person (s), this still does not rule out any of ex boy friends as that's possible too. They probably had no previous criminal record, at least not felony level. They could of lived in different areas, 1 person in MC and the other 1 or 2 outside of MC, so that there was a place to take her and not worry about looking suspicious such as renting a hotel or parking by some wooded secluded area and having the vehicle spotted. I don't have any theory as to if they kept her alive for a time or if she was killed early in the abduction. The person(s) somehow had access to different vehicles, or maybe they did actually use their own but that seems to go against all the supposed planning, but since there is never mention of anyone looking up records or registrations of pick ups, maybe they sold the vehicles shortly afterwards.Without knowing where was searched, it is hard to say what could of happened o how far away these people got that day. Hopefully someone will come up with something and help Jodi's family have some peace.

February 12, 2012
4:56 pm
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after reading Dead Air I have a few thngs that have come to mind.

why would Jodi and her friend go and retrieve this video of her birthday party watch it and her go to John's house and watch it AGAIN after drinking and partying with golf tournament pals all day and into the night. John's neighbors claimed that she was only ever at his house a few times and very briefly at that. (him being the last person to see her alive)

Was John a person of interest in Bill Pruit's death? Shouldn't he have been? Since John's move to Arizona, are these untimely deaths that occur around him still happening? SHould his new circle of friends be interviewed to see if he has implicated himself in anyway? Or perhaps to see in what light he talks about Jodi since he claims she was such a huge part of his life?

If there was meth use going on, that stuff will make you obsess and tweek over things and make a person do crazy things.

With the use of cookies on the computer, couldnt this web site sort through the viewers and see if anyone is suspicious or even a person of interest?

I would like to see justice for Jodi and her family. there is an evil person walking around among us.

February 12, 2012
5:43 pm
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But, people that do meth and other drugs also usually get in trouble with LE for other crimes and don't like to sit in jail, so you would think if any body like that knew anything in the past 16 years, they would of probably used that info to get out of trouble or work out some kind of plea.

February 12, 2012
7:12 pm
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February 19, 2012
6:00 pm
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In the book DEAD AIR, the police are said to have thought "it all started in the apartment", and there is mention of the toilet seat being up and, presumably, a man was there or had been there. What scenario do investigators think was most obvious about the man's departure? Did he leave before Jodi went to sleep, after she was awakened by the phone call from the station, at the same time she left, or after she left? Obviously, if he left at the same time, or after she left, he would have either seen the attack or the debris strewn about, and you would think he would have tried to help or called the police. Is there any chance that the man in her apartment actually was the person who attacked and then abducted her?

February 21, 2012
10:02 am
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I am just merely wondering... about that stool lid.. being she had been drinking the night before could she have not become ill and she "used" it herself? Just thinking...

February 21, 2012
10:08 am
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Hi Lyn,

You might be interested in the thread "the things Cornseed Dudes say." In particular, look at the two posts by Tak24 re a man Jodi was allegedly dating at the time she disappeared.

The poster was careful not to suggest that this person was involved in Jodi's disappearance, just that he allegedly was the source of the red Mazda Miata.

The reason this is important is that it might provide a jealousy motive for someone else to abduct Jodi, a person who allegedly wanted more of a relationship with Jodi.

February 21, 2012
10:11 am
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Nightrider,

Good point.

It seems like there would have been evidence of illness if that was the case. I guess we'll never know if that was the case.

February 21, 2012
4:41 pm
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Nightrider,

That's a valid idea. She could have become ill from drinking and left the seat up herself.

February 21, 2012
5:00 pm
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Tomahawk,

I read the section you mentioned, and I can certainly see how a man could become insanely jealous when he found out another (younger, richer) man had given the woman he idolized a foxy, bright red Mazda Miata convertible. If he found out that man stayed all night at Jodi's apartment, his temper could likely explode. That scenario seems the most likely, yet. . . there's the stalker theory, the possibility (likelihood, actually) that Bill Pruin's death was not a suicide and could somehow be related, the drug dealers who are on death row and are skilled at abduction and murder.

The only thing that is totally obvious to me is that Jodi was young, trusting, naive, and somehow got in over her head. I'm sure she may have had some misgivings about certain situations, but I don't think she realized she was in imminent danger. I do think she knew her killer, and I don't think she ever believed he would actually harm her, until it was too late.

February 21, 2012
6:03 pm
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Good points, Lyn. And I agree, Jodi was in WAY over her head.

I do think that if the drug dealers/murderers who are now in prison had had anything to do with Jodi's murder, they would have used that information as a bargaining chip years ago. As bad as they are, I don't think they are responsible for this one.

I think one of the biggest reasons Jodi's abduction wasn't solved was her local celebrity status. If she had just been someone who worked in an office, investigators would have looked more closely at her acquaintances and people she met through work. But, with all the interest in her as a member of the media, I think they just got off on the wrong track. And the kidnapper/killer is still among us, enjoying life. It's absolutely galling.

February 21, 2012
7:23 pm
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You are absolutely right. Jodi's celebrity status drew the investigation in the wrong direction, and by the time they got back on track, the trail was cold. But it was a natural mistake to make. Unfortunately, it has allowed the killer to remain free all this time. Physically free, anyway. I imagine he has memories that torment him. Or not. I wonder if he has friends or relatives that suspect him that may eventually come forward.

I am surprised that the "agitated man" that was pounding on her door never came forward. If he was innocent of any wrongdoing, you would have thought he would have gone to the police to give them info.

Also, I never read anything about her purse or briefcase being recovered, and I've wondered why they were taken to begin with. What information did the person think they contained?

Lots of questions, very few answers. I hope the continuing cold case investigation eventually produces answers as to the who and why of this case. It won't bring Jodi back to her friends and family, but it would at least help a little.

February 23, 2012
9:13 am
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I think the agitated person knocking on her door was the abductor/killer. I think that person saw her car in the parking lot and knew she was inside, possibly with a man. I think Jodi wouldn't open the door, because she wanted to avoid a confrontation. But it might have saved her life if she had opened the door. Other tenants were awake and moving around and, if there had been a fight, someone would have called the police. I allege that, after Jodi refused to open the door, the person then went back out to their car/van and waited all night, probably drinking heavily, until Jodi came out alone and in a hurry before dawn the next morning.

I think her briefcase and purse were probably dropped into a body of water with Jodi. Jodi might have had a tighter hold on those things than she did on the rest of her belongings, so they ended up in the car/van and thus had to be disposed of.

I'm convinced those close to this person know a lot and they're not coming forward out of misplaced loyalty. Or the entire group may be in denial, even the perpetrator. Sometimes people, especially those with no conscience, avidly believe their own lies.

February 23, 2012
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I also think the man pounding on the door breaks this case wide open. What I want to know is who reported the banging and yelling to the police. Was the person familiar to the Apt complex. Let's face it, Jodi couldn't have reported it, if she did we should know about it. The person pounding on the door obviously didn't report it that leaves a neighbor who may have been familiar to the sound of the voice OR peeked and reported to the police who it was if recognized.

We don't know bottom line.

February 23, 2012
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My statement about Jodi reporting the person pounding on the door was conjecture. I know there was no report.

I was saying it MIGHT have been better for Jodi IF she had let the confrontation happen that night, when other tenants were alert and moving around, instead of having it happen before dawn, in the dark, when she was alone and most everyone in the complex was asleep.

Just thinking out loud.

February 23, 2012
9:42 pm
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maybe there was not a man there. Maybe she was sick and that is why she over slept. Maybe the seat is up from her throwing up? That makes more sense to me.

February 24, 2012
12:23 pm
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I think you are right that Jodi was there when the agitated man was pounding on the door. She wanted to avoid confrontation and the bad publicity that might occur if the police were called. She probably thought the man would go home, sober up (if he had been drinking), and they would talk the next day. It apparently did not occur to her that he might spend the night in the parking lot growing more and more agitated.

But you are right. It might have been wiser to have opened the door with witnesses there. However, when I was younger, I had the exact same situation occur with someone pounding on the door and shouting, and I chose not to open the door. Luckily, he did finally leave. It was a scary experience and taught me a lot about how relationships can be misinterpreted.

I hope that those who have information will eventually come forward. Perhaps they are afraid of the killer, perhaps he is a close relative, or they may feel it was an accident and that the person panicked and disposed of her body. It's hard to know why a person would choose to keep such a secret for so long.

February 24, 2012
9:47 pm
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Just a thought...if she had drunk too much...and if she had become ill... and then perhaps the alcohol put her into a deep sleep and she never heard anyone at her door...she could have been alone all of the time... maybe..

February 24, 2012
10:21 pm
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That's a possibility, though I've never read that Jodi was a problem drinker.

I do think there was another man in her life, though not necessarily in her apartment that night. Take a look at the two posts by Tak 24 on the thread "the things cornseed dudes say." I wonder if this other man was at the golf tournament that Jodi played in the day before she disappeared?

May 15, 2012
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is this link credible?   https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress…..n-city-ia/ 

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