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Was she REALLY carrying all of that stuff
November 13, 2009
9:49 pm
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fasteddy
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Thanks for the responses. I am glad I can bring some competent discussion to this already informational forum. But, as I was reading the account of what police think happened that morning, a few things jumped out at me. The following sentence is in "The Case" section of this website:

"In an apparent effort to fend off her attacker Jodi drops a pair of red dress shoes, her purse, a hair dryer, a bottle of hair spray, car keys and earrings."

Now, I realize those are all things that a woman in Jodi's profession would take to work. But has anyone really tried to carry all of this stuff at one time? I have not but it just seems like a lot of "stuff" to carry. Granted, I don't know how big her purse was and I suppose the bottle could have been in it but the rest of the stuff would had to have been carried by hand and under her arms.
I try to put myself in Jodi's shoes that morning. I'm late. I'm in a hurry. But I still need to take the regular stuff to work as I would any other day. I get my stuff together. I get out the front door and lock it behind me with keys. Do I set anything down to do that? So, then, I get to my car. I have all of this stuff in my hands. What do I do? Do I keep everything under my arms and struggle to get into a tiny Mazda Miata. . .or. . .do I set some things down on top of the car, unlock the door, put my purse in the car, get the rest of the stuff off of the roof, and put those things in the car next?
I think the average person goes "the roof" route. I realize that the roof is not the quickest method but she's already late and being careful with her stuff would only add another 30 seconds. So, if that is the case, why would everything be strewn beside her car? Shouldn't some of the stuff have been on the roof? Now,someone could say she might have put stuff on the ground and it got kicked in the struggle but that would be the hard way to do it. A Mazda Miata is low to the ground and its roof would have been a perfect temporary shelf for Jodi's stuff. I suppose that stuff could have been on the roof and then got knocked off during the struggle but ALL of it? To me, the crime scene seems a bit contrived.
I have another question: How much force does it take to break a key off in a lock? Has anyone really studied whether a key would break off if the user was attacked at the very moment that the key was in the lock? I don't think I have seen a key broken off in a lock but I am going to guess that it takes a concerted effort with a very tight grip. If Jodi was tackled, I find it hard to believe that she was holding on to the key hard enough for it to break off, especially if she was holding all of that other stuff in her hands. If she was approached from behind and say strangled, then would not her hands have gone directly to her throat to fight off the attacker? Plus, her momentum would be going backwards whereas to break off a key it would need to be going to the side. . .once again with a tight grip on the key. And remember, the earrings were most likely in her hands as well. I mean, what are the odds that the purse drops to the ground and BOTH earrings fall out. . .but hardly anything else. Not likely. SO, the earrings had to have been in her hands. She probably did this because like every other woman on the planet, they put their earrings on on the way to work.

I have more thoughts but maybe I can get some insight on this stuff first.

November 16, 2009
7:20 pm
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From the TV clips I have seen it looked as though the items were strewn across the parking lot...not just near the car. I worked at a job where I carried a purse, but also a utility bag, that held items that Jodi took to her workplace. Perhaps the abductor grabbed her as she came out the
door...not her own apartment door, but the outside door. If he grabbed her from behind, she probably tried to run, and twist out of his grip..the bag would then spill contents on the ground as she ran. About the key..I am guessing she tried to open the door, and if her hand was covered by his hand the force of both his/her hand might be strong enough
to bend the key.

My theory is it was one person, any that is why there has been no talk,
and perhaps because the abductor had no fear if he was seen, perhaps because he was not known in the Mason City area...and he waited till she finally came out.

March 10, 2011
7:51 pm
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Good theory, fasteddy. I take three trips to the car to load up my briefcase, files, coffee, etc. before I go to work. As much as I hate doing it, I use the roof when my arms are too loaded to unlock the door.

But this is what I think happened, in my humble opinion. I don't think she was ambushed or was the victim of a surprise attack by a stalker or stranger. I believe, as I've said many times on this board, Jodi knew her attacker very well. She wanted them to remain friends, but he wanted more. I think something happened earlier that day where she wanted to end the relationship for good because she was tired of the pressure from him. He is furious and follows her. Perhaps he's the one knocking on her door that night and she is in the apartment but won't answer it. He waits for her in the parking lot. He is parked farther away in the lot so she can't see him when she comes out for work. As she makes her way to her car, he beckons her. She has her arms full, and rolls her eyes when she sees him. She does not go to her car first. She goes across the lot where his car is, with her arms full, as he begs her for another chance. She says no. It's over. She turns around and starts for her car. He grabs her, she realizes she's in trouble and makes a run for her car. As she runs, the items in her arms start to fall in her desperate attempt to get to her car. She nearly made it, trying to get the key in the lock when he caught up with her. If you remember, they said the key was bent, not broken. And if she was indeed heard to say, "Please don't do this," that is something you would say to someone you knew, not a stranger. If she were ambushed from behind as she was unlocking her door, those items in her arms would have fallen in a heap where she stood because she would have dropped them as she fought for her life. It would not make any sense for her to hold onto those items as she was dragged to a vehicle across the lot.

October 11, 2012
11:20 am
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Simon said
Thanks for the responses. I am glad I can bring some competent discussion to this already informational forum. But, as I was reading the account of what police think happened that morning, a few things jumped out at me. The following sentence is in "The Case" section of this website:

"In an apparent effort to fend off her attacker Jodi drops a pair of red dress shoes, her purse, a hair dryer, a bottle of hair spray, car keys and earrings."

Now, I realize those are all things that a woman in Jodi's profession would take to work. But has anyone really tried to carry all of this stuff at one time? I have not but it just seems like a lot of "stuff" to carry. Granted, I don't know how big her purse was and I suppose the bottle could have been in it but the rest of the stuff would had to have been carried by hand and under her arms.
I try to put myself in Jodi's shoes that morning. I'm late. I'm in a hurry. But I still need to take the regular stuff to work as I would any other day. I get my stuff together. I get out the front door and lock it behind me with keys. Do I set anything down to do that? So, then, I get to my car. I have all of this stuff in my hands. What do I do? Do I keep everything under my arms and struggle to get into a tiny Mazda Miata. . .or. . .do I set some things down on top of the car, unlock the door, put my purse in the car, get the rest of the stuff off of the roof, and put those things in the car next?
I think the average person goes "the roof" route. I realize that the roof is not the quickest method but she's already late and being careful with her stuff would only add another 30 seconds. So, if that is the case, why would everything be strewn beside her car? Shouldn't some of the stuff have been on the roof? Now,someone could say she might have put stuff on the ground and it got kicked in the struggle but that would be the hard way to do it. A Mazda Miata is low to the ground and its roof would have been a perfect temporary shelf for Jodi's stuff. I suppose that stuff could have been on the roof and then got knocked off during the struggle but ALL of it? To me, the crime scene seems a bit contrived.
I have another question: How much force does it take to break a key off in a lock? Has anyone really studied whether a key would break off if the user was attacked at the very moment that the key was in the lock? I don't think I have seen a key broken off in a lock but I am going to guess that it takes a concerted effort with a very tight grip. If Jodi was tackled, I find it hard to believe that she was holding on to the key hard enough for it to break off, especially if she was holding all of that other stuff in her hands. If she was approached from behind and say strangled, then would not her hands have gone directly to her throat to fight off the attacker? Plus, her momentum would be going backwards whereas to break off a key it would need to be going to the side. . .once again with a tight grip on the key. And remember, the earrings were most likely in her hands as well. I mean, what are the odds that the purse drops to the ground and BOTH earrings fall out. . .but hardly anything else. Not likely. SO, the earrings had to have been in her hands. She probably did this because like every other woman on the planet, they put their earrings on on the way to work.

I have more thoughts but maybe I can get some insight on this stuff first.

Jodi carried a tote with everything in it. The perp picked up the tote and  took it with him, because it had notebooks and cds in it.

She would have been grabbed and pushed up against the car, hard enough to crush the soft top of the convertible. If she was carrying the  tote in her left hand and unlocking the door with her right hand, when she was whipped around, likely the tote flew out of her hand and that would be how the stuff got strewn around. I have always thought that her hand woud have gotten broken from the key thing.

October 12, 2012
1:16 pm
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I hadn't thought about possible damage to her hand.  I just hope she was dead when she was disposed of ...

I agree with Twid's post on another thread regarding the timeline.  I think it was about rejection and I think it was all over within 30 minutes.  And, as others have said, the perpetrator got lots of lucky breaks.  

October 16, 2012
3:42 pm
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Simon said
Thanks for the responses. I am glad I can bring some competent discussion to this already informational forum. But, as I was reading the account of what police think happened that morning, a few things jumped out at me. The following sentence is in "The Case" section of this website:

"In an apparent effort to fend off her attacker Jodi drops a pair of red dress shoes, her purse, a hair dryer, a bottle of hair spray, car keys and earrings."

Now, I realize those are all things that a woman in Jodi's profession would take to work. But has anyone really tried to carry all of this stuff at one time? I have not but it just seems like a lot of "stuff" to carry. Granted, I don't know how big her purse was and I suppose the bottle could have been in it but the rest of the stuff would had to have been carried by hand and under her arms.
I try to put myself in Jodi's shoes that morning. I'm late. I'm in a hurry. But I still need to take the regular stuff to work as I would any other day. I get my stuff together. I get out the front door and lock it behind me with keys. Do I set anything down to do that? So, then, I get to my car. I have all of this stuff in my hands. What do I do? Do I keep everything under my arms and struggle to get into a tiny Mazda Miata. . .or. . .do I set some things down on top of the car, unlock the door, put my purse in the car, get the rest of the stuff off of the roof, and put those things in the car next?
I think the average person goes "the roof" route. I realize that the roof is not the quickest method but she's already late and being careful with her stuff would only add another 30 seconds. So, if that is the case, why would everything be strewn beside her car? Shouldn't some of the stuff have been on the roof? Now,someone could say she might have put stuff on the ground and it got kicked in the struggle but that would be the hard way to do it. A Mazda Miata is low to the ground and its roof would have been a perfect temporary shelf for Jodi's stuff. I suppose that stuff could have been on the roof and then got knocked off during the struggle but ALL of it? To me, the crime scene seems a bit contrived.
I have another question: How much force does it take to break a key off in a lock? Has anyone really studied whether a key would break off if the user was attacked at the very moment that the key was in the lock? I don't think I have seen a key broken off in a lock but I am going to guess that it takes a concerted effort with a very tight grip. If Jodi was tackled, I find it hard to believe that she was holding on to the key hard enough for it to break off, especially if she was holding all of that other stuff in her hands. If she was approached from behind and say strangled, then would not her hands have gone directly to her throat to fight off the attacker? Plus, her momentum would be going backwards whereas to break off a key it would need to be going to the side. . .once again with a tight grip on the key. And remember, the earrings were most likely in her hands as well. I mean, what are the odds that the purse drops to the ground and BOTH earrings fall out. . .but hardly anything else. Not likely. SO, the earrings had to have been in her hands. She probably did this because like every other woman on the planet, they put their earrings on on the way to work.

I have more thoughts but maybe I can get some insight on this stuff first.

She carried a tote.

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