Exactly sixtyrock, does anyone know if any of Jodie's associates or friends had Black Trucks or White Vans or cars similar. In the video the police stated they checked out white vans either side of a specific year in IA,& MN. What about WI, IL, MO, NE, or SD. They have had 14 years to do this. After the media blitz they still could have worked up up those other states. Those comments were made by the police 10 years after she was abducted.

I have something to add about a black pick-up truck.
I heard about a teacher who lived in Mason City at the time. He was male, thin and used to run in the mornings around 4:00-4:30 AM up in the area around the high school and towards NIACC. This is very close to where Jodi lived. He was a serious runner. He mentioned once about a black pick-up truck with tinted windows coming up next to him one morning while he was running in the dark. He said the truck "paced" him. He looked in the window to see who it was but couldn't because of the tinted windows. He said it scared the "--" out of him. He remarked that it was like the driver wanted to see who he was.

The woman jogger also talks about a similar incident only blocks from Jodi's apartment shortly before her abduction. This time, the vehicle was small, with their headlights off, and paced the jogger also; then drove off.

It is possible this stalker is the same person; only with two different vehicles.

It is mentioned that Jodi was also a jogger. Since she worked in the early mornings, I doubt she ran then....or did she? when she had a day off of work?
Was Jodi a regular and serious runner?

If not..this would mean the stalker knew she jogged. This means he would have to either live out of his vehicle, or live close by, to know her "not so regular" habits that well.

Jodi was the jogger who was being trailed by the blank pick-up truck, this was when she ran to someone house because she feared for her safety. I questioned sometime in the past if she every took down a plate number or partial, I was advised they don't know. it happened several weeks prior to her abduction. That was the main reason I thought that at that time it was meant to scare Jodi and was a message to someone else that they could harm someone they cared about if they didn't stop what they were doing and they were obvious about it to her. This goes back to the drug theory. What the "stop what they were doing" was a pure guess on my part.

Did the joggers we hear about, the ones who were paced by the black pickup truck, ever see the truck after Jodi's abduction?

Was the black pickup truck seen by the residents of Key apartments in their parking lot at any time after the abduction?

This thread has some very good posts (and I don't mean mine).:)

This is the very starting point of the mystery.
Which vehicle belonged to the perpetrator?

Personally I lean towards the car seen leaving the parking lot at high speed as the one.
However that leaves the white van as 'the elephant in the room.' Just what was it doing there at that time?

There is a 'red herring' here and it is these herrings that have wrecked this investigation.

So which vehicle took Jodi away that morning?

Was it a modern car with fast acceleration or an older van that would get you there as best it could?

As for the black pick up truck (known as a 'ute' for utility in my part of the world)where was that? Did it belong to the car driver or the van driver or was it someone else again?

My hunch is this was a lone perpetrator. The trouble with teams or groups is someone eventually will talk.

So which is the key vehicle that morning?

Was this the same lady jogger who saw the car leaving the parking lot at high speed?

Has anyone thought about the fact the two cars were related. The White pick up did the abduction, the black car (to speculate a minute) was the person who was either hired or paid to have her abducted and witnessed the abduction to verify it was done then sped away, the objects left at the scene meant nothing to them.

I thought I read that the Pick up and the car went in two opposite directions coming out of the parking lot.

If that is correct you have a conspiracy, not a lone stalker or "Anyone with a television". Does anyone know when cell phones were available to the public? Was there access to a phone in the immediate area? Remember Jodi was late, the abductors waited, could they have called someone and verified she was still going to work and didn't call in sick? Either way they waited, they knew she was coming out of that building regardless of the hour.

If there were two cars and two people involved in the abduction it puts an unusual slant on it for me.
The way I see it this is the way the criminal element behaves when 'taking someone out.'
People like gang members or maybe a drug cartel of some kind.
It amazes me that niether of these people have ever talked. If there is more than one person involved there is always the chance one will blab.
Perhaps they can't talk. I don't know.

Serial rapists and other sex offenders along with serial killers nearly always operate alone.

Boy, this case is a real headache.

sixtiesrock said
We had a black pickup truck that frightened Jodi badly. So badly she feared for her safety.
This black pickup truck was seen a few times in the two weeks before the abduction.

Then we had the white van at the scene of the crime.

Finally there is the dark colored car that was seen by the lady jogger leaving the crime scene car park at high speed with the driving lights off.
The lights were put on once the car was steadied on the road.
This was about the time of the abduction too.

The way I see it LE put a lot of effort into finding the white van. They failed to locate it.

I wonder if any resources were put into finding the black pickup truck? Were black pickup trucks very common in 1995?

What about the car leaving at high speed, was it looked for?

And the jogger never mentioned seeing a white van on the road either.
The crime scene vehicle activity is very baffling.

For me the black pickup truck has a big red flag on it.

For me it is the car.

sixtiesrock said
This thread has some very good posts (and I don't mean mine).:)

This is the very starting point of the mystery.
Which vehicle belonged to the perpetrator?

Personally I lean towards the car seen leaving the parking lot at high speed as the one.
However that leaves the white van as 'the elephant in the room.' Just what was it doing there at that time?

There is a 'red herring' here and it is these herrings that have wrecked this investigation.

So which vehicle took Jodi away that morning?

Was it a modern car with fast acceleration or an older van that would get you there as best it could?

As for the black pick up truck (known as a 'ute' for utility in my part of the world)where was that? Did it belong to the car driver or the van driver or was it someone else again?

My hunch is this was a lone perpetrator. The trouble with teams or groups is someone eventually will talk.

So which is the key vehicle that morning?

A rough looking noisy car. The van was not there the night of. Possibly someone got their days mixed up. The black pickup was the one that was following Jodi and when police  escort started the black truck was no longer seen.